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are reaction to a little-known amateur movie produced in the united states which ridiculed the prophet mohammed. it gained attention because an obscure florida pastor began promoting it, the same man who triggered deadly riots in afghanistan when he threatened to burn the koran. we want to go straight to cairo where we find nbc chief foreign correspondent, richard engel. richard, fill us in a little more this morning. >> reporter: good morning. a libyan source has told nbc news that the u.s. ambassador who was visiting the consulate was killed along with three others. not sure of the nationality of those three others. the u.s. state department has not confirmed this, but this has been told to us by a senior security source in libya. we've been also told that the libyan prime minister and the libyan president will both be speaking today about this subject, offering their condolences to the united states and to the family of the fallen ambassador. and this is according to the report. we were told that when gunmen and a mob stormed the consulate building, they first attacked it with rpgs, then the
of violence will shake the resolve of the united states of america. >> good morning. it is thursday, september 13th. welcome to "morning joe." with us on set, national affairs editor for "new york" magazine, john heilman, richard haass. and in washington, nbc chief foreign affairs correspondent and host of "andrea mitchell reports," andrea mitchell. >> we have so much to talk about this morning. of course breaking news overnight. >> yeah. >> we, of course, have been focused on libya. yesterday we were focused on the political scrap that was taking place while we had chaotic situations across the globe. >> i'd say it was more than a scrap. >> i think it was a terrible moment, maybe a defining moment in the campaign, of course what's going on in egypt right now. is equally troubling. and i suspect that when the streets clear, perhaps the most troubling aftereffect of this will be what has not been said by the muslim brotherhood or the leaders of egypt. this morning we'll have to get to that later because this morning more breaking news. now out of yemen. >> yep. witnesses say hundreds of demonst
has the judgment and character to be the president of the united states. this morning all of us were shocked to learn that chris stevens, our ambassador to libya, had been killed in an attack there, along with three other american diplomats, all murdered in what u.s. officials are now investigating as a possible terrorist attack on the anniversary of 9/11. while americans mourned, mr. romney saw a political opportunity. >> the administration was wrong to stand by a statement sympathizing with those who had breached our embassy in egypt instead of condemning their actions. in my view, a disgraceful statement on the part of our administration to apologize for american values. >> sympathizing with them all, apologizing for our values? this is rough talk and ugly stuff and president obama responded. >> there's a broader lesson to be learned here. governor romney has a tendency to shoot first and aim later and as president, one of the things i've learned is that you can't do that, that it's important for you to make sure that the statements that you make are backed up by the facts and tha
shakes the resolve of the united states of america. >> and the president's on the case, he sent two u.s. warships to the libyan coast. he sent marines into tripoli, and attorney general eric holder said that he has opened up an investigation. >> as we watch the world today, it seems that we're at the mercy of events and -- a strong america depends on a strong military. this president has done something i find very hard to understand. >> joe kleine, thank you because you've got a big picture and look at this, who is romney talking about our ability to confront these local situations where a group of militants in a place like benghazi decide to go after the american embassy. >> what is being able to fight two big land wars have to do with that? >> once again the guy doesn't know what he's talking about or he's 25 years out of date. the two-war strategy was a product of the cold war when we had to have the ability to fight the russians on the planes of the earth and. >> he still thinks that the soviet union exists and is the greatest threat we have out there. it's really remarkable that
and a white america and latino america and asian america. there's a united states of america. >> eight years after the keynote that launched his national career, four years after becoming the nation's first african-american nominee, tonight president barack obama accepts the nomination a second time. tonight the president makes his case for four more years. >> four more years. >> america needs four more years. >> tonight more from the first lady, vice president biden, caroline kennedy, the foo fighters? yes, the foo fighters. weather moved tonight indoors. but after a first night owned by michelle obama, after a second night owned by president clinton, expectations for the finale are sky high. msnbc's primetime coverage of the democratic national convention's final night begins right now. >>> thank you for joining us. i'm rachel maddow here at msnbc headquarters in new york. i'm joined by ed shultz, melissa harris-perry, chris hayes, and the senior strategist steve schmidt. lawrence o'donnell and al sharpton will be joining us in a moment. leading us from the site of the convention is our co
's a crude film. they know it has nothing to do with the united states government. it is an excuse. one intelligence person told me, if you scratch the surface, and if you gave every street vendor from street vendor to prime minister in that region a chance to throw a rock at the u.s. embassy, they would. so this is their excuse. >> look at what's happening in afghanistan 11 years later. >> and look what's happening in afghanistan. and is it just me? willie, is it just me, or is it -- we have the grave concern about the tragedy that happened to the ambassador and our people that have served so proudly for, you know, for the state department who were killed. and yet this weekend, more u.s. troops in afghanistan gunned down by our supposed allies. this happens every day. this happens every day. and yes, our u.s. ambassador being killed is just absolutely horrific. but every single day, young american men and women are gunned down in afghanistan. >> 51 of them this year on insider attacks. 51 nato troops including many americans this year. >> nobody's talking about it. >> to your point exa
as the democratic candidate for president of the united states. we have a pretty feisty audience. >> we have so many paul ryan fans. paul ryan, paul ryan, paul ryan! yes! yes, can you feel the love. i bet we have a lot of crimson tide fans, too. roll tide! >> it's all right. we have with us contribute mike barnicle and senior political analyst mark halperin and msnbc political analyst john heilemann, whose cover story for this week's "new york" magazine is on joe biden's role in the campaign. >> what a great cover. >> as we said, later today democrats will kick off their national convention here in north carolina, a state with 15 electoral votes up for grabs this november. president obama won north carolina by a microscopic number of votes in 2008. but a new poll shows the president will have his work cut out for him if he hopes to win here again. mitt romney currently leads the president 47% to 43%. one of the first orders of business will be to adopt the party platform. it echos president obama's call for higher taxes on wealthier americans while backing same-sex marriage and abortion rights. it s
of this debate. ultimately the fault line in the united states is not the fault line between the people receiving federal assistance and those who aren't. what we want to do is get people off those things. that status ought to be transitional. and they ought to ultimately move to the point where they are, if you will, taxpayers or they working full time and so forth. that ought to be the debate, and that's what's missing. again, what's missing i actually think from this campaign is not just optimism, but it's a set of ideas on the economy, on the budget, on our role in the world. you can't -- neither candidate is actually putting forward much in the way -- you say an optimistic agenda. i'd also say a positive agenda and have two candidates who are painly counterpunching and they're refraining from putting forward ideas lest they be attacked. this is a very defensive campaign. so you don't say what tax expenditures you'd get rid of. you don't exactly say how you would curtail entitlements. everybody's playing defensive. but what this shows, but not playing offense, you're still on the defensive. b
to the united states and my dad had to get help, the financial help. the government helped his family to be able to get back on their feet again. by the warks that's the way america works, we care for people and help lift them up and get them back. we don't have that become a permanent lifestyle. we help people, we get them on their feet. >> joe, a lot of people are analyzing mitt romney as taking a much more moderate tone. how will those on the right who may have liked this hard line that they were hearing from mitt romney, hearing that hard line from the private tape that was secretly recorded, how are they going to react to this more moderate approach? >> i think that they will like the fact that mitt romney is talking about everybody. he made those comments in may. they could have been worded a lot better than they were. he's doing the right thing by telling people he cares about all americans and he cares about the situation of every american and lots of people including his own family in the past have needed help. there's nothing wrong with needing help. it's going forward that really matt
. >> and when i become president of the united states. >> i'm going to win pennsylvania and i'm going to become the next president of the united states. >> we'll be talking with our political journalists about all that in just a moment. today there's reaction and a rare reversal from u.s. intelligence official on what happened in libya. officials now admit they got it wrong. the director of national intelligence office says "we revised our initial assessment to reflect new information." and the intelligence community now believes it was a "deliberate and organized attack" which left the u.s. ambassador and three others dead. now members of congress from both parties are demanding answers. on the ground in benghazi, investigators can't even get to the scene. nbc's mike viqueira is joining us from the white house with more on this. mike, how big a deal is this reversal? >> reporter: well, it's very controversial and potentially a big deal. the question all along is ever since those september 11th attacks what caused them, what was the motivation for the people who killed four americans including
slack. >> at least for 24 to 48 hours until you have a dead united states ambassador come back home. i think that was the unbecoming thing. >> but the egypt mistake is an interesting mistake and i think deserves some scrutiny. >> it was an interesting mistake. i think we can get past it. i think it is very good news that the president spoke with president morsi and let him know, this is not acceptable. this is not how you guys behave. and john, from all the report s i've read, the egyptians said message received. the muslim brotherhood, even, said message received. we're going to pull back. why is this important? this is so important for so many reasons in the middle east. the least of which not being israel and trying to keep -- trying to keep israel safe. >> well, you think about it, you know, the historic u.s. allies in that region, all of those relationships are somewhat more tenuous and trfragile than just few years ago, whether it saudi arabia. you want to have that relationship be strong. i think the president was speaking the truth which is that it's a government in transition.
of the united states of america, and to the republic, for which it stands, one nation, under god, indivisible, with liberty and justice for all. [ applause ] >> boy, she just looked great, didn't she? >> she did. you can imagine, the amount of therapy and hard work. >> oh. >> that she's had to endure to climb back from being -- she was literally shot in the head. >> in the head at close range. >> close blank range. that was a pretty pivotal time in the nation's conversation about where we stand and the tone of things. >> it was. >> what a symbol of hope she is. that was incredible. >> it was a very moving moment. >>> all right. coming up he nominated his dad, last night for another term as vice president, bo biden, the attorney general of delaware, joins us ahead here on "morning joe." former pennsylvania governor ed rendell, nbc news political director chuck todd and later maryland governor martin o'malley. up next mike allen is here with the politico playbook. but first, bill karins with a check on the weekend forecast. >> good morning to you, mika. let me help get everyone out the door thi
to win and distance themselves from this guy who is, as i say, plainly not fit to be in the united states senate, given some of his views. but it is possible, as jim vandehei said, it's possible he could win this race. and it's clear that a lot of republicans and the republican establishment now looking at the math are thinking about coming back in. i think the republican senatorial committee is very likely to put money into this race. i think the polls will tighten. as horrific as it will be to many people not just on the left but in the middle of the electorate, i think there's a reasonable chance he could win this race. >> not only do i agree with that, take a look, joe, at what roy blunt did. he is moving up in leadership, and he came out and supported akin yesterday. so that is -- >> the senator from michigan. >> yeah, that's the leading indicator. that tells you that the republican committee is going to go full in, and they see this as their way to regain control, and it's all about regaining control. and i can tell you that some of the very people now supporting him are republicans
? >> the united states military says most joint operations with the americans and afghan soldiers are going to be suspended until further notice. and mika, this is horrifying when you look at the fact that u.s. policy makers have been justifying continuing this war in afghanistan based on this -- this -- this lie that we're going to be able to train them and help these people who are shooting and killing our troops, help them run the country. >> the longest war and for the longest time no one who is in charge or who knows about these issues can tell us what winning means. the move comes amid an alarming string of insider attacks. the latest on sunday that left four american soldiers dead. yesterday, nato announced it was also scaling back joint operations with afghan security forces. the joint combat patrols are seen as a critical part of the u.s. plan to withdrawal from afghanistan by the end of 2014. and just a few hours ago, in the capital of kabul, nine people were killed when a suicide bomb rammed a car packed with explosives into to a mini bus believed to be carrying foreign workers.
a campaign tied to the incumbent president of the united states. >> joining me now in our war room, a former pennsylvania congressman, joe sestak and bill clinton and romney surrogate and george w. bush white house aide. good afternoon to you. congressman sestak, let me start from you. i want to play another clip of that "60 minutes" interview set to air tomorrow night when he was asked about the campaign and the video 47%. >> that's not the campaign. that was me. i have a very effective campaign, doing a very good job. >> peggy nounen writing in the "wall street journal," i called it in competecompetent, i was b polite but really meant rolling collam ca l ca lamty. >> what is it you're trying to say? >> mitt romney is the campaign. you represent that ship and how well it does. he's made these gaffes on his own both about the egyptian embassy and 47% of americans he spoke about that he said didn't have personal responsibility. i really truly believe mitt romney is a decent man. but he's twice shown by these gaffes, if that's the word you want to use, as commander in chief, is he willing to b
test it. >> i think there's a real problem where that guy being president of the united states. he's not really human. >> he's pulled out the reagan playbook, but it's just not working 30 years later the way it did 30 years ago. he wants to add things back in without explaining, without explaining what they'll do. >> yeah, but reagan, getting that salute right. he knew it was important to recognize he was commander in chief, but connecting with the people fighting the wars. >> the difference is that romney has talking points and in talking about veterans in jobs, the the work of michelle obama and jill biden, he's bridged this divide in a way. >> dr. biden, the second lady, if you will, make iing a point almost in a civil war setting that women, taking an interest in mostly guys are getting injured badly, they're killed and being out and addressing them as individuals that are important, years after the battle. >> and that is what's so unpleasant if you will about romney's reply on fox. in afghanistan, it's 110 degrees, walking around with a pack and weapon or imagine you have a lo
to be president of the united states and you're going to sit here and invest your money overseas and not invest it in the united states, what kind of leader or you? you take care of the people who elect you. you take care of the people who have faith in you. there is nothing about bain that we really ought to be applauding. look, yes. sports authority and a few jobs and it was just said most of these jobs didn't even -- the wages didn't even keep up with inflation in this country. elderly people also understand too. when these countries we want bankrupt, in order for him to make money, in order for bain to make money, a lot of people's pensions went down the drain and their health care went with it. people understand takeover. people understand corporate sharks. people understand something that was said in that movie wall street. for a lack of a better word, greed is good, and romney has been greedy. who in their right mind runs a campaign on labor day and invites the press to show you getting on a yacht? >> and sailing. but let me go back to you quickly, crystal. harry reid said we don't know
of the united states is an awesome figure merely to share the platform with him on equal terms is the gain in stature, good performance will be gauged even better. why would any president agree to participate in an event that ultimately -- the -- because it's become now a demand, president obama suddenly bailed on debates. then, you know, he would be seeming like a poor sport. and also these debates are agreed upon long before the fall season, they're everything from the podium to the lighting, everything is worked out between the parties. >> do you think the presidential debate has ever changed the course of an election? >> i definitely do, i think we just talked about 1960, i think it changed it. i think in 1976, in 1980, i think also one could argue in 2000, it would al gore's kind of a robotic performance against george w. bush that cost him a lot. - >> rolling his eyes and -- >> the lock box that nobody understood what he was talking about. and the way -- even the way his makeup looked. one of the problems of these debates anymore, it's not just substance, people are looking at eye ro
of the united states. >> i heightened it up. >> if you listen to what he said in florida from that fund-raiser thing, he continually refers to "those people." "those people." that ain't going to fly. >> yeah. >> "those people." >> that was bad. >> like some alien tribe among us who are just lunging for food stamps. nobody wants to be born poor in the united states of america. >> yeah. >> there's a way to do it, but -- >> i can tell you my dad also, again, unemployed for 18 months. i'll guarantee you he didn't like going to the mississippi unemployment office to get a check to keep gas in the car. >> you think people like going to food pantries? >> no. it was humiliating. he did it because he had to do it. but, again, though, i think, though, there is -- i think this is a line of demarcation. and i think it's a good opportunity. i told a good friend of ours in the romney campaign, i said, the tape's not your problem. the libyan press conference, you lost more independent voters with that stupidity than that tape. you could actually use the tape as a positive. >> let's get to massachusett
by the year. rick scott, i would dare say, is perhaps the most conservative governor in the united states. florida, i understand it's a swing state in presidential election, but it's a swing state when you have, you know, guys running like mitt romney and john mccain and bob dole. a tough conservative wins florida. >> what was the impact of that ad -- i couldn't believe when he picked ryan, the democrats ran an ad of some guy who looked like ryan pushing granny off the edge of a cliff in a wheelchair. it was subtle. >> it was subtle but that doesn't work because marco rubio got elected by promising. the one big debate that he had with charlie crist and the democratic opponent, he talked about raising social security to 70. bob graham, one of the most popular democratic politicians in florida history, always talked about the need of possibly raising the retirement age for social security and medicare. the voters there are a lot smarter than politicians think. so no, it wasn't that good. let's talk some more about ike because, again, i think the guy is slowly evolving into my favorite presi
the president of the united states or vice president biden. but they have the benefit of having some of the greatest speakers, arguably, in the history of politics, bill clinton, president obama, you could add michele obama to that list now. >> oh, my gosh. the reaction from that speech has been -- i mean i have heard from people from all walks of life who were completely moved by that speech and brought to tears. i don't even think they expected it to be that good. she was excellent. >> yeah. >> it was her execution that just brought it home. >> her speech was tough. she delivered it well. >> hours before last night's big speeches there was an awkward and unexpected moment on the convention floor, amid criticism from mitt romney, and other top republicans, democrats held a last-minute vote to reinsert the word "god" into the party platform and to declare jerusalem the capital of israel. >> the matter requires a two-thirds vote in the affirmative. all those delegates in favor, say aye. all those delegates opposed say no. >> in the opinion of the -- let me do that again. all of those
to the population of the united states is now increasing. and it's not just white supremacies and neo-nazis. that's one of the specific investigations i did. what's more widely known are the soldiers with mentally unhealthy disorders. >> that is perhaps an entirely separate conversation. when you talk about the suicides and all those kind of things, deplorable numbers there. that said, colonel, regarding the first part of our conversation with matt, any validity to this? do you or any of your current military colleagues recognize this as a problem? >> well, there had been some problem in the past. don't forget we decided that we were going to go to war and we required a large number of troops without having the political will to have a draft and, therefore, widespread service. and anytime a society does that, you're going to have to relax the standards. and for a period of time we did have either mlax standards or standards not followed. the people who recruit soldiers, sailors, airmen and marines into the service don't have to deal with them once they're in. having said all that, at the end of t
and saw the president of the united states holding a rally. the obama campaign had booked the same barn on the same date. >> just our luck. that's kind of how -- oh, yeah, figures, the one place which the president also chooses. >> so on the big day, president obama ended his campaign speech with moments to spare before the wedding. the bride rushed into her ceremony and walked down the aisle on time. to extend his apologies for clogging up the parking lot, president obama left behind a wedding gift, a silver tray and a mint julep cup. where he got that, we don't know. >> i used it the first night for sure. love him or hate him, it's a gift from the president. >> unknown fact. along with the football the president of the united states travels with, also travels with a mint julep cup. the newlyweds say they're not democrats, but they admit the cup from the president was by far the coolest wedding gift they received. >>> sam stein, thanks, man, we'll talk to you. >> thanks, guys. >>> up next, senator tom coburn joins the conversation. also, richard wolffe. keep it on "morning joe." does y
started. we'll remind the world why the united states of america is the greatest nation on earth. good bless you, everybody. god bless america. >> the first presidential debate is exactly one week from tonight and right now both mitt romney and the republican party are being rejected by the american people. joining me now is bob shrum, democratic strategist, and chris stal ball, co-host of "the cycle" on msnbc. bob, let ne start with you. is this as bad as it looks for romney or should i be looking at it more holistically? >> well, i think they should have said that ohio is a big hole in our planet. romney is not an ohio kind of guy. out there he comes across like a guy from another planet. in fact, there's one bain man on youtube that's had 350,000 hits in ohio. >> 350,000 hits just in the state of ohio? >> just in the state of ohio. and then he talks about getting tough on outsourcing to china but he's the one that outsourced to china. and now he says, i care about the middle class but gives no specifics. it's not believable. look, the guy did a terrible mistake by saying the 47%. th
more than 1/4 of chinese exports come to the united states. if you have a customer that's unhappy with you and that customer buys 20 or 30 or 40% of your products, you're not just going to turn your back, you're going to work with them. and the chinese work with us when we actually stand up to them on these issues. president clinton did it with intellectual property from time to time and the chinese would respond. there would be histrionics, they'd scream and yell and then they'd change their behavior a little bit. the same with these issues when we've enforced trade rules. i want a good trading relationship with china, i just think it's too one sided. i think americans when the congress, when the international trade commission, when the department of commerce, when the white house, when the congress stands up, when we all stand up it makes a huge difference and the relationship will settle in in a way a bit more advantageous to the united states of america and to our manufacturing companies, the smaller ones especially, and the workers in this country. >> that's in some ways what
the president of the united states in the eye and say, you're wrong, and then stick to it and win the arguments? >> yeah. >> a great line. prime minister thatcher used to say first you win the argument then you win the vote. i think republicans forget that. >> right. >> interesting. >> yes we do. >> speaker gingrich, mr. professor, thank you very much. >> we're looking forward to seeing calista on tuesday. dee dee myers stay with us. coming up more poll numbers from swing states. david gregory and chuck todd will be here to break them down and also eugene robinson joins the conversation. i don't want healthy skin for a day. i want healthy skin for life. [ female announcer ] don't just moisturize, improve the health of your skin with aveeno daily moisturizing lotion. the natural oatmeal formula goes beyond 24-hour moisture. it's clinically proven to improve your skin's health in one day, with significant improvement in 2 weeks. for healthy, beautiful skin that lasts. i found a moisturizer for life. [ female announcer ] aveeno daily moisturizing lotion. also discover daily moisturizing body wash.
class voters about crime in the united states or about the maybe some of the parts much the civil rights movement they didn't like. and then when with ronald reagan would talk about welfare queen, same thing, a coded racial message. so what are the messages this time? well, the most important one is in the ads that the romney campaign is doing on welfare. these ads are inaccurate but making it sound as if president obama wants to, quote, send them a check, just send them a check. welfare recipients. more than half of all of their ad budget is dwoeevoted to thes ads. now, they toned that down at the convention because that so obviously is a racial subtext. they toned that down, but they do have a couple of other things that still will do conjure kind of the same deal, both paul ryan and mitt romney said in their speeches that money was going to be raided from medicare to pay for obamacare. >> i heard that. >> what that's code for is, hey, white senior citizen voter, your money is going to be taken and given to possibly black minority, uninsured, poor people. that plays on their fears that
on wednesday or here in the united states. everything could change. that's why it's important that everyone remember that these are just quick snapshots. we use them. it behooves journalists to make sure we don't rely on them too much to start drawing conclusions. >> we do love polls here. it gives us something to talk about. let me ask you this. i have a buddy who contends one of the effects of these polls is people read all that stuff. if you don't read the polls and you deduce, our guy didn't have a shot, i'm not going to bother showing up in november. what type of effect do you think that it potentially has on independent voters? >> that's a great question. i think it's something people get frustrated about with the press, which is as we report on these things, we sometimes are accused of getting in the way of the process. i think if you're down two or three points, it's not a big deal. i've worked on campaigns where you can definitely get past that with most voters. if you start to slip out of the what i would call the aura of reasonability, you're down eight, ten, you get written off.
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